Additional Tramway-Models needed

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 19 янв 2017, 00:19

Hi,
can an admin please add / edit the folling types Tramway-Models:

Please rename the Group "Modertrans/Tramwaje Szczecińskie" to "Modertrans Poznań" https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modertrans_Pozna%C5%84


Group | Model | action needed (source) | to be used in
Bombardier | Bombardier Cityrunner | edit (rename from "Bombardier 3000 Flexity Outlook C") | Graz, Linz, Łódź
CAF | CAF Urbos 70 | add (http://www.caf.net/en/productos-servici ... _urbos.php) | Houston
CAF | CAF Urbos 100 | add (http://www.caf.net/en/productos-servici ... _urbos.php) | Freiburg im Breisgau & Utrecht
Modertrans | Duewag N8C-MF 01 | edit (rename from "Duewag N8C-NF") | Gdańsk
Modertrans | Duewag N8C-MF 18 | edit (rename from "Duewag N8C-MF18") | Gdańsk
Modertrans | MAN M8C-MF 14 AC BD | add (https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modertrans_Pozna%C5%84) | Elbląg
Modertrans | Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 02 AC | edit (rename from "MF02AC") | Poznań
Modertrans | Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 16 AC BD | edit (rename from "MF16AC") | Tramwaje Śląskie
Modertrans | Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 19 AC | edit (rename from "MF19AC") | Wrocław
Modertrans | Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 20 AC | edit (rename from "MF20AC") | Poznań
Modertrans | Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 22 AC BD | add (https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modertrans_Pozna%C5%84) | Poznań
Modertrans | Tatra RT6-MF 06 AC | edit (rename from "RT6 MF06AC") | Poznań
Pragoimex | Vario LFR.S | edit (change from group "Other modernizations of Tatra trams" to "Pragoimex") | already in use
Schindler | Be 4/6 S Schindler/Siemens | add (http://www.g-st.ch/trambasel/rm/rm_bvb_659.html) | Basel & Sofia
Other | Firema Eurotram | add (http://www.strassenbahn-online.de/Betri ... index.html) | Milano

Thank you :D

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Сообщение yeah » 19 янв 2017, 17:52

Hello!
Your request is done.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 20 янв 2017, 15:27

Thanks for editing.

Here is some refill :D

Group | Model | action needed (source) | to be used in
Alna Sharyo | Little Dancer S | add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer) | Japan
Alna Sharyo | Little Dancer L | add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer) | Japan
Alna Sharyo | Little Dancer A | add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer) | Japan
Alna Sharyo | Little Dancer U | add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer) | Japan
Alna Sharyo | Little Dancer Ua | add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer) | Japan
Alna Sharyo | Little Dancer C | add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer) | Japan
Modertrans Poznań | Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 15 AC | edit (rename from "MF15AC") | Szczecin
MAN | MAN/Duewag N8S-NF | edit (change from group "Modertrans Poznań" to "MAN" - these cars never have been touched by Modertrans) | already in use

Regarding the "Little Dancer" trams it's the same discussion as always: Is the Manufacturers description to be used or the - more common and obvious (because printed on the tram) customers description to be used?
Example: Little Dancer Ua in Toyama are called "Santram T100" # T101 to # T103.
The same type in Osaka is called "Type 1001" # 1001 to # 1003.
The same type in Toyohashi is called "Type T1000" # T1001.

Thank you.

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Сообщение yeah » 21 янв 2017, 14:56

The models added/edited.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 28 мар 2017, 00:46

Please change "Bombardier MGT6DE" to "DWA MGT6DE".

The 12 tramcars for Erfurt model "MGT6DE" were built 1996 - 1998 by "DWA (Deutsche Waggonbau AG - Werk Bautzen)".

DWA was sold to Bombardier in 1998.

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 31 мар 2017, 01:02

Done.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 14 июл 2017, 09:33

Please add
Solaris NGT10
to the database.

These tramcars recently have been delivered to Leipzig: http://l-nv.info/pages/nahverkehr/stras ... /ngt10.php

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 15 июл 2017, 22:59

Christian Maibaum пишет:
14 июл 2017, 09:33
Please add
Solaris NGT10
to the database.

These tramcars recently have been delivered to Leipzig: http://l-nv.info/pages/nahverkehr/stras ... /ngt10.php
Added Solaris NGT10.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 18 сен 2018, 00:20

Please add
  • Škoda 18T ForCity Classic
  • Škoda 35T ForCity Classic
to the database.

18T is being delivered to Eskişehir (Turkey)
35T is currently on show at InnoTrans Berlin an will be delivered to Chemnitz (Germany) later this year.

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 18 сен 2018, 00:59

Christian Maibaum пишет:
18 сен 2018, 00:20
Please add
  • Škoda 18T ForCity Classic
  • Škoda 35T ForCity Classic
to the database.

18T is being delivered to Eskişehir (Turkey)
35T is currently on show at InnoTrans Berlin an will be delivered to Chemnitz (Germany) later this year.
Done.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 27 сен 2018, 01:00

Please add

Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 25 AC

Vehicles of this model are Szczecin # 603 & # 604.
Source: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost ... count=3874

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 05 окт 2018, 14:01

Christian Maibaum пишет:
27 сен 2018, 01:00
Please add

Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 25 AC

Vehicles of this model are Szczecin # 603 & # 604.
Source: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost ... count=3874
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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 27 мар 2020, 15:42

Please add

Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 09 AC

Vehicles of this model are Elblag # 070 to # 073
Source: http://phototrans.pl/2415,528,18509,0.html

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 31 мар 2020, 21:24

Christian Maibaum пишет:
27 мар 2020, 15:42
Please add

Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 09 AC

Vehicles of this model are Elblag # 070 to # 073
Source: http://phototrans.pl/2415,528,18509,0.html
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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 26 апр 2020, 17:40

Please add

Modertrans MF 10 AC

Vehicles of this model currently being delivered to Tramwaje Śląskie
Source: https://www.enika.pl/en/news/317-the-dy ... 10-ac-tram

Even though some sources on the web call them "Modertrans Moderus Beta MF 10 AC" this designation has never been used by the manufacturer.
The front/end looks like a Moderus Gamma tram, but it has no low floor through the entire vehicle.

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 26 апр 2020, 22:47

We actually use Alpha, Beta and Gamma for all models of the range. Not sure which one is correct.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 27 апр 2020, 21:35

Михаил Исаков пишет:
26 апр 2020, 22:47
We actually use Alpha, Beta and Gamma for all models of the range. Not sure which one is correct.
HF = high floor = Moderus Alfa
MF = partly low floor = Moderus Beta or various rebuild Models as DUEWAG N8C / M8C, Tatra RT6N or Konstal 114Na
LF = completely low floor = Moderus Gamma

Therefor MF 10 AC as a new built Modertrans-tram should be part of the Moderus Beta-Family but as I mentioned before, Modertrans himself didn't call them Beta.

MF but no Betas:
https://transphoto.org/photo/1123692/
https://transphoto.org/photo/838544/
https://transphoto.org/photo/1114447/

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 28 апр 2020, 17:45

Christian Maibaum пишет:
27 апр 2020, 21:35
Михаил Исаков пишет:
26 апр 2020, 22:47
We actually use Alpha, Beta and Gamma for all models of the range. Not sure which one is correct.
HF = high floor = Moderus Alfa
MF = partly low floor = Moderus Beta or various rebuild Models as DUEWAG N8C / M8C, Tatra RT6N or Konstal 114Na
LF = completely low floor = Moderus Gamma

Therefor MF 10 AC as a new built Modertrans-tram should be part of the Moderus Beta-Family but as I mentioned before, Modertrans himself didn't call them Beta.

MF but no Betas:
https://transphoto.org/photo/1123692/
https://transphoto.org/photo/838544/
https://transphoto.org/photo/1114447/
Thank you for explanation. I'm really not sure if we should use this model without Beta name. https://www.urban-transport-magazine.co ... -tramways/ here it's called Moderus Beta.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 28 апр 2020, 22:05

Михаил Исаков пишет:
28 апр 2020, 17:45
Thank you for explanation. I'm really not sure if we should use this model without Beta name. https://www.urban-transport-magazine.co ... -tramways/ here it's called Moderus Beta.
We all can only be sure if one day someone took a photo of the manufacturers placard. Is it a hugh afford to rename a "MF 10 AC" to "Moderus Beta MF 10 AC" (or the other way round) if the placard says so?
https://www.urban-transport-magazine.co ... -tramways/ probably says it's a beta because of the "MF" in the model designation and it's built by Modertrans.

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 03 май 2020, 13:32

Okay, I've added Modertrans MF 10 AC.

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Сообщение focus1965 » 09 май 2020, 00:28

For Brussels, for the metro:

Factory (in the list): La Brugeoise et Nivelles SA - Model: M1
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M2
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M3
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M4
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M5

Thank you very much!

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 10 май 2020, 14:47

focus1965 пишет:
09 май 2020, 00:28
For Brussels, for the metro:

Factory (in the list): La Brugeoise et Nivelles SA - Model: M1
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M2
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M3
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M4
Factory (not in the list): BN Constructions Ferroviaires et Métalliques (BN): Model: M5

Thank you very much!
Done.

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Сообщение Christian Maibaum » 08 окт 2020, 19:11

Please add

Moderus Beta 205WrAs-MF 17 AC

It is the model designation after modernisation of Protram 205WrAs.
The first one is nearly ready, 25 will follow.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/ModertransPozn ... 5352073240

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Сообщение Михаил Исаков » 16 окт 2020, 09:16

Christian Maibaum пишет:
08 окт 2020, 19:11
Please add

Moderus Beta 205WrAs-MF 17 AC

It is the model designation after modernisation of Protram 205WrAs.
The first one is nearly ready, 25 will follow.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/ModertransPozn ... 5352073240
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